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Carlos, 30-01-10 12:17:
Hi Jöern, Telefonica it's only worried about dividens not by customers. Tey sell the most expensive service in value terms. They bussines in the companies market is declining fast and the survivor will move to VoIP swiftly, individuals are getting ride of monthly fees using other operators, they will fail if they can not mantain they dividens and the Ibex will follow them. Kind of zombie to me.

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Joern's answer:
Well, I guess they should be worried about other things as well:
1. consumers as their purchasing power erodes in Spain with 19% unemployment
2. Latin America - several countries will default on their debt
3. Dividend is needed to maintain the leverage ratio of Telefonica
Jo, 31-01-10 19:18:
Desperate actions comes from desperate times. It is a sign of the times of great change. The old system does not work anymore. Clinging to the old system brings much unrest and upheaval. Clinging to the old prolongs the arising new birth. The harder we resist the new birth, the more painful the childbirth.
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Friday 29. January 2010 14:47 Age: 43 days

Hard times for Spanish Telefonica?

Telefon- Terrorism makes me think about the leading Spanish stock  
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A large part of the Spanish stock market index IBEX is based on Telefonica stocks.  Should the telephone company experience a revenue shock, then bad times would send down the whole Spanish stock market. In this week signs turned very negative and I take them as a seismic prediction tool for a coming financial earthquake:

Today I received four (!) phone calls from Telefonica’s sales agents. I refused several times to be educated on new offers, but they dare to call again and again. Let’s face it: This is terrorism!

Right now, I started to look up the web of phone numbers of Telefonica’s managers and I provide them to the call center agents (in Mexico or somewhere else). It now has reached a level of disturbance, which keeps me from working and make effective use of my phone line - but this is just a short note along the sideline. The more interesting part of this story is that I observed this pattern, every time - before - the stock went down.

What really concerns me is that Telefonica seems to apply a last man standing strategy – ahead of a deflationary shock. This indicates to me that the operator is in trouble. Said so, I have to look more in the financial details to understand the current position and outlook for the company. 

But just looking at the way how the Spanish telephone operator treats me as a client, I believe it might eventually not benefit enough from its Latin American business to offset the falling revenues in the domestic market. Clients noted that Telefonica still keeps a monopoly position, in the open EU market. That has however not helped the company to become more professional and their unprofessional Telephone terrorism indicates that no attempted is made to serve the client, but rather follow a lock-in strategy.

Keep in mind. This is not investment advise but just an academic discussion of things I noticed.


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